[Suggestion] Animals are too cooperative
Lions and Tigers and Bears, all at once, oh my! Getting into a fight with a bear is tricky business, but when a pack of wolves and any boars in the same zip code join the fun, and single out the humans exclusively in a giant collaborative gang hit, well it's a bit silly.
How come they don't fight each other? They almost never do. It's like humans are the only things on the menu, and predators are only predators when Icarus staff hit the ground. Until we show up it's one big peaceful ecosystem of love and kindness for all. We should rename this moon Eden. :)
Seriously though, maybe give some degree of random targeting in a group fight when multiple species are involved. Maybe the wolves hit the bear and vice versa a bit in the chaos? The wildlife on Icarus seem unrealistically well coordinated for collaborative combat against the player.
Any fight against a bear that I lost, I lost because there were minimum 1 extra wolf teaming with the bear to get me. They should attack each other and not working together.
A bear, all alone - i can takem... enter 4 wolves and a boar that weren't there a second ago all the sudden with a common goal - me. makes no sense.
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Yea seriously, what's with the inter-species team-ups? in real life most of these animals would be fighting amongst themselves for territory.
seen bears actively patrolling with two wolfs in tow. this is in full release and is only the start of what needs to be fixed with the bears
Good point. If bears are territorial have them chase out other predators in the area.
Have them hunt prey.
Packs of wolves/hyenas challenge lion prides and bears territory.
Maybe add some wildlife training /domestication. Leave out raw meat for them and they leave your area.
Fight or flight mechanics in ai would be nice as well. All deer do is run, have them stand ground 10% of the time...
The first couple of hours of the River Lands Expedition was absolutely brutal. Cougars, boars, and hyenas were literally joining forces to swarm me. Occasionally an elephant would join in if they were close enough. There was four or more at any given time attacking me. After I was dead, they walked off slapping each other on the back. Some stayed an aggro my house. Not once did they fight each other.
I eventually started building on a cliff so they would stop attacking me. I then needed to build a fence so they would stop attacking my pillars.
Once I was established, I made quick work of them throughout the rest of the mission. However, I did contemplate walking away during those first couple of hours.
All that said, it would be nice if I didn't have to worry about a wolf, a boar, and a bear attacking every time they are close enough to join in.
It would be nice to see them attack each other occasionally.
As stated. Bears are hard enough. But wolves flying out of the woodwork every time you attack (or are attacked by) one is incredibly, ridiculously unfair. And it's so consistent me and my team even have a pet name for them. "the bear's b&&&&". We see a bear and instantly start looking for its' b&&&& pack and shoot them first, because we know they "pack up" together, despite every single instance of both real-life, and gameplay-balance logic.
While I agree that it is kind of ridiculous, just like Elephants get upset if you kill predators near them, it does make some sense.
It's not so much that they come to the defense of the bear, as they see a threat to them, and respond to it.
You shooting your arrows at a bear, will announce your presence to the other predators.
I only think that should be consistent with all animals, not just bears.
To me it feels like a bug where, if you one-shot an enemy (even a bear) the predators close by don't notice it.
If you start a prolonged fight they all activate. They should always notice you shooting arrows, even if it is one-shot.
I feel your pain... A bear on your heels is bad enough but boy... That boar teaming up with some wolfs to come to his rescue...
I would also love to see wolfes attacking the bleeding deer instead of the unhurt me in stealth armor and stealth ...
I would generally love to see some predators actually hunting other prey than me...
Yeah, it makes absolutely no sense that animals gang up on you. Probably the worst 'feature' in this early acce... I mean full game.
I believe wolves should be more cautious amd stand back and observe more. Rather than straight attacking for no reason. But boars are nasty vicious animals. They are fine to me.
I agree with the wolves not attacking. Bears are direct competition as apex predators to a wolf pack, they would not engage, at least while the bear was alive. Boars... they are a different animal and quite willing to attack any threat, though they would go after a wounded bear just as quickly. Scorpions would attack anything else that moves close to them, cougars generally won't attack anything bigger than themselves unless they are starving and then they attack the closest thing that won't likely kill them.
In other words, animal behavior is broken and should eventually be reworked.
agreed, wolves would not team up with a bear for sure. But they would hang around to see if something dies for eating.
Another annoyance: this kind of unrealistic pred behaviour. To paraphrase Tolkien: "What do they live on when they can't get people?"
maybe add thread:
Elissa - Producer Admin
"[Suggestion] Wolves and boars rushing to defend bears is illogical, overpowered and incredibly unfun" (suggested by Kobura on 2022-01-04), including upvotes (53) and comments (3), was merged into this suggestion.
Elissa - Producer Admin
"[Suggestion] Bears with wolf friends" (suggested by Dinkelbrot on 2021-11-20), including upvotes (39) and comments (4), was merged into this suggestion.